Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] 2 candidates for oldest boundary monument in the world
Date: Oct 09, 2000 @ 03:34
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
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>The second URL does not work.

thanx & oops

happily tho this baby is worth a second take with full drum roll
so i have corrected the url in the text below
enjoy

i mean i think it really might be the rock of ages

m




>
>I think Peter never found any boundary markers between France-Spain (and
>Andorra).
>
>Jesper
>----- Original Message -----
>From: michael donner <m@...>
>To: <boundarypoint@egroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:42 AM
>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] 2 candidates for oldest boundary monument in the
>world
>
>
>> most boundary scholars agree that the modern system of negotiated &
>> monumented international boundaries dates only from about the treaty of
>> westphalia in 1648 following the thirty years war
>>
>> however <http://www.esj-lille.fr/atelier/explo/EPOQUE/NEP_06.HTM>
>>http://www.esj-lille.fr/atelier/explo/EPOQUE/NEP_06.HTM shows a
>> photo & tells the story in french of a 1375 boundary monument on the french
>> spanish border in the pyrenees that is said to have been the focal point of
>> an annual ceremony of friendship held without fail ever since this monument
>> was first installed according the terms of the treaty of roncal
>>
>> it is known today as monument 262 or saint martins stone
>> in honor of the patron of boundary stones
>> as also of drunks & innkeepers
>>
>>
>> but there may also be an even older boundary marker on the other side of
>>france
>>
>> <http://republicain-lorrain.fr/tourisme/bitche/breintenstein.htm>
>>http://republicain-lorrain.fr/tourisme/bitche/breintenstein.htm shows a
>> photo & tells also in french of a prehistoric druidic monument still
>> standing on or near the present alsace lorraine subdivisional boundary
>>
>> it was renovated with christian art in 1787
>> after which it became known as the rock of the 12 apostles or of the 3
>>peters
>>
>> apparently it has marked intermittently in its different guises a shifting
>> international frontier during many centuries
>>
>>
>>
>> please let me know of any other candidates you may be aware of too
>>
>> m