Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Triple land-locking
Date: Apr 29, 2001 @ 08:00
Author: Brendan Whyte ("Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@...>)
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No, i was just noting that the count of countries is subjective: Palestine,
Taiwan, Tibet, Seeland ,Hutt River, East Timor, SMOM... it all depends on
your political stripes.


BW


>From: Bernhard <tardis@...-net.de>
>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Triple land-locking
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 07:56:42 +0200
>
>Hello Brendan,
>
>Is this the first time Hutt River Province is mentioned in any serious
>international
>law context?
>Or have I missed something?
>
>Brendan, as you are (geographically) nearest to the Court of Prince Leonard
>- have they
>been recognized as a nation in the meantime?
>
>Eagerly awaiting your info
>
>Bernhard
>
>
>Brendan Whyte wrote:
>
> > whoops, i get 196, inc taiwan but not palestine.
> > So 150odd unlandlocked.
> > I must have been thinking of political entities, including offshore
> > dependencies.
> >
> > While doubly and triply landlocked are certain, the landlocked and
> > unlandlocked start to get subjective. Does the Hutt River Principality
> > count, as it's another landlocked one if so.
> >
> > And I meant Bangladeshi enclaves not Pakistani of course.
> >
> > BW
> >
> > >From: michael donner <m@...>
> > >Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Triple land-locking
> > >Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:48:52 -0400
> > >
> > >standing ovation
> > >
> > >recreational geographics have arrived
> > >
> > >
> > >my only question is about your approx 200 unlandlocked countries
> > >as i had thought there were only about 192 independent countries in the
> > >world
> > >& subtracting your 39 single landlocked countries & 2 double landlocked
> > >countries from this total leaves about 151
> > >
> > >so where are the extra 49 or so
> > >
> > >m
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >That would seem right.
> > > >Not counting Nagorno or Palestinian west bank, Tibet, or SMOM:
> > > >
> > > >triple-landlocked: 0 countries, 1 enclave, one
>counter-counter-enclave.
> > > >= 2 fragments
> > > >
> > > >double-landlocked
> > > >2 doubly landlocked countries, Liechtenstein and Uzkebistan. And
>other
> > > >doubly landlocked enclaves include Campione, Busingen, the 7 dutch
> > > >counter-enclaves at Baarle, the russian enclave in Belarus, the 5
> > >enclaves
> > > >of armenia and Azerbaijan (Nagorno doesn't count as it is not
>recognised
> > >as
> > > >Armenian or independent), the counter enclave at Madha in the UAE,the
>6
> > > >other Ferghana enclaves and the 21 Pakistani and 3 Indian counter
> > >enclaves.
> > > >= 2 countries, 14 enclaves & 32 counter-enclaves
> > > >= 2 countries and 46 fragments.
> > > >
> > > >single-landlocked
> > > >39 countries, 23 enclaves at Baarle, Llivia, 5 at Monschau, 3 at
>Cyprus
> > >[1
> > > >is already on the sea, although it has no territorial sea of its own]
> > > >Nakihichevan, Madha.
> > > >= 39 countries, 33 enclaves , 1 other fragment (Nakhichevan).
> > > >= 39 countries, 34 fragments
> > > >
> > > >Unlandlocked:
> > > >approx 200 countries.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: granthutchison@...
> > > >>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > >>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > >>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Triple land-locking
> > > >>Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:11:43 -0000
> > > >>
> > > >>Here's a random thought that has just come to me. I think there are
> > > >>probably only two triple land-locked territories in the world -
>areas
> > > >>from which you can't reach the sea without crossing three national
> > > >>boundaries. One is the (pretty obvious) third-order Indian enclave
>in
> > > >>Bangladesh, and the other is the Tajik enclave in Uzbekistan.
> > > >>Does anyone else find that at all interesting?
> > > >>
> > > >>Grant
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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