Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] nsw sa vic & almstn<br/>
Date: Apr 24, 2001 @ 15:06<br/>
Author: michael donner (michael donner &lt;m@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1453101342"><blockquote><span title="ireply">&gt;<br/>
&gt;So we have a line running along the river bank and one (ALTn running along<br/>
&gt;35 paralell sort of. They turn out not to intersect as described. What to<br/>
&gt;do? Extend each until they do. So riverbank line continues north, line along<br/>
&gt;parallel continues across ruver, or west fomr middle of river/thalweg as<br/>
&gt;appropriate. Bingo, they now intersect on western bank.<br/>
&gt;BW<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>yes  yes  yes<br/>
<br/>
the boundary that made itself<br/>
<br/>
  or perhaps others less enthusiastic would call it a boundary by default<br/>
<br/>
yet it mightnt have done this if ms hadnt first insisted in 1837 that tn<br/>
honor the point 6 chains above yellow creek where the original 1819 mstn<br/>
survey of the 35th parallel eastward from the mississippi river first<br/>
struck the tennessee river<br/>
rather than the position 3 quarters of a mile farther south where a<br/>
unilateral 1830 resurvey by tn reached the tennessee river<br/>
  as enshrined by an 1833 tn law<br/>
    a thus a legal boundary of ms by its own federal enabling acts of 1817<br/>
<br/>
when ms got tn to agree to reverse this law in 1837<br/>
  since mstn couldnt become federally ratified without the agreement of ms<br/>
they were actually only narrowing a legal gap rather than truly closing it<br/>
  a common comedic theme in tripoint formation<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
so  even apart from the suggestion of the flow of the river<br/>
the mstn line was already literally advancing or rebounding northward along<br/>
the left bank in 1837<br/>
<br/>
& this was happening at the point in time when almstn was first legally<br/>
established<br/>
  not really yet as a tripoint<br/>
    but still technically only as a triarea somewhere between altn & mstn<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
& what was there to stop the arriving mstn line from generating or<br/>
reincarnating as an extralegal sector of altn<br/>
<br/>
the point we know as modern almstn couldnt  or at least didnt  stop it<br/>
<br/>
the only thing that could stop it was the hypothetical arrival on the left<br/>
bank in 1837 or later of an extension of the 1817 paleo altn survey line<br/>
that had actually stopped on the right bank<br/>
  a line which also evidently had a mind & momentum of its own<br/>
    westward in its case  as also previously detailed<br/>
<br/>
& they both stopped only when  t h e y   met<br/>
<br/>
& it was that meeting  or image of that meeting in the mind of whoever drew<br/>
the first map & has been copied happily but unconsciously ever after<br/>
that reduced almstn from a triarea or trigap to a tripoint<br/>
<br/>
but it is still not a legally valid tripoint<br/>
  only a traditionally accepted tripoint<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
of course all this is pure silliness because what was originally at stake<br/>
was just a small sliver of a wild & flood prone river<br/>
& what is now at stake is just an even less significant & more forgettable<br/>
patch of water in a huge reservoir<br/>
<br/>
still a nice little hole in reality tho<br/>
<br/>
m</div>