Subject: 1360 by wolfgang
Date: Mar 26, 2001 @ 19:59
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
Prev    Post in Topic    Next [All Posts]
Prev    Post in Time    Next


thank you peter

so it sounds as tho what you are all feasting your eyes on there is the
earliest known boundary monument still in existence anywhere
whether actually dated on the stone as this one apparently is or otherwise

& no matter that it has been retired & moved
it is still an enormous find by wolfgang
& congrats are definitely in order
dont you all agree

would still love to see what it looks like some day

m

>
>The text in the pdf file is as follows:
>
>---start of message---
>
>Rüsselsheim am Main
>Heutiger Standort: Festungsmuseum der Stadt Rüsselsheim
>
><4 pictures of the inscriptions (drawings)>
>
>Text:
>(Lapid)e indicitur, quanto dei trini et unici ju(re) Fridericus a
>Nassaw primorum in pr(aesentia) nitid(e)
>erecti in Chr. in ripa Rhizulsaim MCCCLX a. St. Johannis die
>Moguntinus fixit.
>Übersetzung:
>Der Stein zeigt an, mit wie hohem göttlichen Rechte Friedrich von
>Nassau in Anwesenheit der edlen
>Herren des hübschen in Christo gebauten am Main gelegenen Rüsselsheim
>am 24. Juni 1360 den
>Mainzern die Grenze festgelegt hat.
>Herren von Cronberg - Domstift Mainz 1360. Der älteste Grenzstein im
>Rhein-Main-Gebiet. Er stand in
>der Gemarkung Rüsselsheim am Main.
>Die lateinische Inschrift auf den vier Seiten besagt, dass der
>Domherr Friedrich von Nassau im Jahre
>1360 die Grenze festlegte zwischen dem Erzstift Mainz und den Herren
>Von Rüsselsheim - damals den
>Cronbergern gehörig.
>Viereckiger oben abgeplatteter roter Sandstein, die Seiten 22,5 cm
>bis 24,5 cm breit. Höhe vom Sockel
>an 88 cm. Befindet sich im Landesmuseum zu Wiesbaden, ab 1990 in
>Rüsselsheim.
>Literatur:
>Nassauische Heimatblätter 1916 / 1917, Seite 51
>Nassauische Heimatblätter 1917 / 1818, Seite 46
>Richard ZORN; Grenzsteine des Rhein-Main-Gebietes, 1927, Bild 347
>Bilder siehe nächste Seite:
>
><4 photographs of the border stone>
>
>---end of message---
>
>Unfortunately I can't copy the pictures for you (I've described the
>contents between <>).
>
>So, the stone is presently in the Fortifications Museum in
>Ruesselsheim am Main. I was placed there by one Frederick of Nassau,
>so a distant ancester of the Dutch royal family. It marked the
>boundary between the arch-stift (can't think of an English
>translation for that) of Mainz and the seignory of Ruesselsheim.
>
>Peter S.
>
>--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <m@d...> wrote:
>> wow
>> that last magic mushroom & peyote digest
>> & indeed all our wild 1920s to be exact
>> really made my head spin
>> thank you
>>
>> the smokinest news on the reservation this morning tho is that a
>possibly
>> dated 1360 worker stone has indeed been found still in place yet
>happily
>> retired in germany
>>
>> & the reception is of course limited here
>> so if anyone has actually seen the pic or the additional data about
>it sent
>> by wolfgang in pdf
>> would they please never hesitate to rebeam it up to us here if
>possible
>> as well as to any other members in the same soup
>>
>>
>> & you can imagine how we reacted to all those spirits
>>
>>
>> we are almost sure we saw a basilix with an obelix & an asterix tho
>>
>> & i am pretty sure a couple of other gorgeous old rocks from the
>austrian
>> netherlands must have also flown by in the night
>>
>>
>>
>> i imagine it makes the pala feel better to draw their world whole
>>
>>
>> i wonder if the agua caliente are amused by the u s grant
>>
>>
>>
>> it has also come to my attention that at least 1 entire california
>> reservation has no indians living on it
>> & possibly several cases of this
>>
>> m

btw
the empty reservation is evidently the capitan grande
the same one that looked like the elephant seal

both halves of the fragmented mesa grande reservation may also be empty too
& there may be a lost third fragment of it as well

more art in the works