Subject: Re: denmark & the singaporean twins idmysge & idmysgw
Date: Jul 10, 2000 @ 19:48
Author: mick donner ("mick donner" <m@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@egroups.com, rhall@q... wrote:> > > i am hoping that the mapsurfer or someone else better equippedwith the> > hard data than ourselves can tell us for sure here> > Dunno about Singapore but I'll admit I didn't think about islands.it seems to me that in order to be comprehensive we may have to checkout not only the insular sorts of countries like singapore & bahrainbut also the peninsular sorts like qatar & i think especially omanwhich could conceivably produce a set of maritime triplets much likethe riverine us2kymotn trio> One could wonder about any weirdnesses in all those Pacific > Island groups. There's at least one quad point in there the way> my map is drawn; I don't know if y'all are counting them -- I'd> vote no of course.randy i would agree with your no vote on a kinrsbtv point or anyother pacific quadpt & most if not all of the similarly depictedpacific tripoints as well for that matter because i am pretty surethat all the maps which show these are actually referring to theoutdated colonial sectors or spheres of interest or islanddistributions & few to none of these are based on actualinternational boundaries of today> > > i still think that denmark in its capacity as greenland could atthe very> > least & without ever having to negotiate with anyone make aunilateral> > sector claim to a share of the north pole just as russia &liberal elements> > of the canadian government have already done> > so as to produce with them a rather hypothetical yet stillsomewhat real> > cadkru point > > One would consider using iso codes for territories where iso > codes exist, even if the territory under consideration > (Greenland in this case) doesn't fit one's exact definition > of a "country"> > People debate what is a country and what is not all the time,> depending on where they are from, their geography schooling,> and their world view. Without debating on whether or not > Greenland is in fact a "country" on this list, suffice it to> say that some will say it is and some will say that it is not> and on some lists it will be and on other lists it will be> not. The elegant way to handle these debates in a neutral> way without passing (potentially offensive) judgement on> whether a particular territory is a "country" is to use the> iso code if it exists for the territory. (Of course, I've> always preferred the term territory to country anyway).thanxx for this excellent series of observations & suggestionsi confess i was hoping our list could simply recognize the membercountries of the united nations plus those few nonmembers mostmembers have generally acknowledged or at least agreed to disageeabout & i believe this generally acceptable roster numbers 192 at themoment but perhaps a truly universal multinational point collectionreally does require a much more inclusive kind of thinkingit might be fun also to create a pair of names for all conceivabledependency tripoints respectively incorporating both the landlord &the tenant nation diglyphs & to use both hexaglyphs until thedependency becomes independentetc etcbut lets keep the ball rolling on this toom