Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] gone fishing for vermont secession & associated new tripoints
Date: Oct 28, 2005 @ 17:53
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
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While many of the Indian tribes and nations of the USA and Canada have various degrees of "internal sovereignty" recognized by the respective American and Canadian governments under various treaties and laws, they do not have sovereignty as recognizable by foreign governments.  In the USA, these nations use their internal "sovereign" status primarily to shield themselves from state-level regulation and taxation of their various economic activities, even while being fully subject to federal taxation and regulation with few exceptions.  As for the reservations at NYONQC, they are adjoining separate reservations in the USA and Canada, belonging to two technically separate entities:  the St. Regis Mohawk Tribal Council (USA), and the Mohawk Council of Akwesasne (Canada).  These two bodies sometimes cooperate, sometimes not.
 
Don't forget that American states are "sovereign" as well.  They have joined themselves together into a larger compact, granting to their federal government certain enumerated aspects of their sovereignty while reserving the others.
 
Oh, I know, everyone is equally sovereign, etc., etc.; but I'm speaking here of sovereignty as the term is commonly used in the larger political world.
 
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Wallis
To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] gone fishing for vermont secession & associated new tripoints

If you are going to treat vt as "independent" I suppose there is a question as to whether these really are "the only tricountry points in america north of guatemala". If Indian reserves are considered territory of sovereign nations as some would maintain, what about reserves that straddle the CAUS border such as Akwesasne which actually contains nyonpq within its boundaries? - does this not then create additional such additional north american international tripoints?


From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 2:27 AM
To: boundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] gone fishing for vermont secession & associated new tripoints

will be cruising to montpelier by moonlight later
tonight
up the ethan allen highway in fact
to the vermont independence convention
in the freakin state house starting at 830 in the
morning
& all day

dont know what help yet another stray connecticutie
could be to them
but if successful we will be creating the only
tricountry points in america north of guatemala

or rather actually promoting existing secondary
tripoints

into causvte & causvtw presumably

so wish us luck

no new tripoint visits are in the offing tho

just going for the fun of breaking away this time

in the meantime another page on this topic i found
interesting
http://www.vermontrepublic.org/writings/vtsradicalimperative.html

beeps















           
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