lowell
i just realized from a discussion found a bit more than halfway down this page
http://robertoreg.blogspot.com/2003_07_20_robertoreg_archive.html
that the ellicott mounds on alfl are in fact larger & easier to find than anywhere else
because the 1853 retracement of alfl by whitmer mentioned in bus&ss actually enlarged &
reshaped them all into cardinal crosses
like the one i found & described in the field report linked below
this may partly explain why there are no known recoveries of ellicott mounds yet on lams
notwithstanding the several on alfl
& it suggests that your quest for one on lams may actually be more difficult than it would
have been on alfl
so it might be a good idea to find a copy of ellicotts 1814 journal
as partially cited in the bus&ss bibligraphy
which includes fairly detailed maps of all the mound locations
as may its 1962 reprint also
full citation is here at bottom
http://www.dean.usma.edu/math/people/rickey/dms/DeptHeads/Ellicott-mine.html
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
>
> ok fantastic
> & please feel entirely free to be the first to bail me out of my predicament
>
> most of my 17 topozone generated prospects are in the felicianas
> but i cant say which are most likely
>
> i would say they are about as tall as a texan & quite massive if they are still all there
>
> there is still a pic of a somewhat eroded one
> probably on alfl tho
> linked to
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/8454
> & a verbal description of another probably grander one on alfl about a third of the way
> down this field report
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/9185
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@m...>
> wrote:
> > I don't know of any 1799 Ellicott mounds on LAMS, but I've never been a huge
> > student of that particular one of my state's boundary segments. If he left one
> > per mile, surely at least one of the slightly more than 100 should survive.
> >
> > I'm willing to give this some attention when I get caught up post-hurricane.
> > Unless you want to reserve the quest for yourself, I'd even be willing to
> > undertake an expedition to a few of the most likely of your 17 prospects. Just
> > how big are these mounds supposed to be, anyway?
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@y...>
> > To: <boundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:34 AM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] ellicott mound prospects in louisiana
> >
> >
> > > now that i have shot my mouth off about louisiana
> > > still having some 18th century earthen mounds on the
> > > lams state line that were once esus international
> > > boundary markers
> > > to go along with her 1 remaining 19th century latx
> > > rock
> > > it occurs to me i may well be called upon to
> > > substantiate this claim
> > >
> > > which i cant yet
> > >
> > > i have visited several & learned of several others of
> > > these 1799 ellicott mounds that still mark the alfl
> > > state line
> > > & yikes i have just recalled another famous one on
> > > flga
> > > so i must add georgia to the distinguised fraternity
> > > of the international border convergency of the the
> > > deep south i mentioned to david
> > >
> > > ga fl al ms la tx
> > >
> > > but the point is i have no idea if an ellicott mound
> > > will ever actually be found on lams
> > > hahahaha
> > >
> > > i have seen ellicotts field notes showing that he left
> > > them at roughly 1 mile intervals all the way from the
> > > mississippi to the chattahoochee
> > >
> > > in fact he is known to have begun with that sector &
> > > to have proceeded west to east on it
> > > so
> > > the oldest international boundary marker in america
> > > if one wanted to add the distinction of greatest age
> > > to such a quest
> > > will be the nearest one to ellicotts initial point
> > > presumably near modern lams2cowewi on the mississippi
> > > aka the concordia west feliciana wilkinson tertiary
> > > tripoint
> > >
> > > & i have found 17 promising elevation locations that
> > > are marked squarely on the lams state line by usgs
> > > topography
> > > the nearest to cowewi being so far happily just out of
> > > range of angola
> > > but of course any of these 17 prospects that would be
> > > so good as to actually pan out would do me just fine
> > >
> > > the especial delicacy of the situation tho is that the
> > > bus&ss bible doesnt even mention that this part of the
> > > lams state line was ever retraced & remarked
> > > as it states the alfl part of ellicotts mound line was
> > > in 1853
> > >
> > > so for this reason
> > > & also in view of the fact that the mound line
> > > perfectly coincides with the well marked public land
> > > survey base line
> > > i expect to find no other lams markers anywhere than
> > > just federal corner pins & whatever is left of the
> > > original earthen mounds
> > > if anything
> > >
> > > but any harder evidence or leads than just these
> > > inchoate gropings of mine would be much appreciated in
> > > the meantime