Subject: Re: Russian pene-enclave of Dubki in Estonia
Date: May 26, 2005 @ 13:26
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Brendan Whyte <bwhyte@u...> wrote:
> As I feared, Babelfish had confused the translation by duplicating partial
> sentences and not translating other partial sentences. A careful effort has
> resulted in the following three paragraphs concerning the pene-enclave.
> These confirm the same boundary as currently shown on Estonian 1:20,000 map
> titled 'Rosna', sheet number 55.31, dated 1997.
> This map indicates individually number boundary pillars, or at least
> turning points, which are not described in the treaty. The treaty is fairly
> vague is its descriptions as to distance, direction etc [it is not a
> surveyors description, but indicates general alignment, which the surveyors
> will then follow, and allows them a little leeway in the placement of
> pillars or the making of exact delimitations].
> The treaty description does, however, confirm that the pene-enclave will
> survive, with the same boundary, or at least one effectively the same, as
> shown on current Estonian and Russian maps.
> Note that Dubki translates into English as 'oaklings', that is, young oak
> trees. The Estonian name is Tupka.
> The 'nameless island' is named on the Estonian map as Plaava.
> The 'nameless stream' is named on the Estonian map as 'Reetska'.
>
> Boundary of pene enclave as per recent Russo-Estonian boundary treaty
> (edited Babelfish translation from the Russian)
>
>
> "Then boundary goes 5.8 km on the middle of Kuleyskaya River in the general
> northwestern direction, leaving a nameless island on the Russian side,
> intersects the bridge across the river on its middle [bridge from Podmotsa
> in Estonia to Kulje in Russia - editor] and, going around the outline of
> the peninsula in Lake Pikhkva (Pskov) a distance of 250m from the Estonian
> shore, it leaves the lake for the point on the shore of lake, located in
> 0.8 km to northwest of the Estonian village of Podmotsa and 0.8 km to the
> northeast of the Russian village Dubki [=oaklings!!].
>
> From the point indicated the boundary goes 0.3 km southwards along the
> swamp, then 0.5 km upstream of a nameless stream in a south-south-eastern
> direction, leaving the village of Podmotsa on the Estonian side, and
> village of Dubki on the Russian side, and then a further 0.6 km in the
> western-south-western direction on the swamp with the insignificant
> fracture [??] to the south to the rural road between the Estonian village
> of Kremessova and the Russian village of Dubki.
>
> From the rural road the boundary goes 0.5 km southwards along the swamp
> and the meadow, then 0.5 km eastwards, and a further 0.4 km in
> south-south-west and 0.9 km in northwest directions along the swamp and
> ploughed land to the coast of Lake Pikhkva (Pskov), intersecting the rural
> road between Kremessova and Dubki and leaving the farmsteads of the village
> of Kremessova on the Estonian side."
>
>
> Brendan Whyte