Subject: still grasping for eelvru Re: Russia-Estonia border treaty
Date: May 23, 2005 @ 17:58
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> whats this mention in article 4 about a separate eelvru treaty
>
> it is surprising because theres no lvru treaty yet
> & wasnt any eeru treaty til this week
>
> but can the text of this tripoint treaty also be found
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Brendan Whyte <bwhyte@u...> wrote:
> > This month's Estonian-Russian boundary treaty is available (except the
> > boundary description and map!!) at
> > <http://web-static.vm.ee/static/failid/372/Riigipiiri_leping_Venemaaga_rus.pdf>.
> >
> > Thanks to Pepijn for pointing me to the document.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is a Babelfish translation from the Russian:
> >
> >
> > AGREEMENT between the Estonian republic and the Russian Federation about
> > the Estonian- Russian state border Estonian republic and Russian
> > Federation, being further named sides, guided by the universally recognized
> > principles and the standards of international law, including documents OF
> > UNITED NATIONS and OBSE, and confirming the tendency to develop
> > intergovermental relations on their basis, desiring to ensure favorable
> > conditions for the development and strengthenings of good neighborly
> > relations and of mutual confidence between two states, attempting to
> > develop lawful basis for regulating of questions, connected with the
> > Estonian- Russian state border, agreed about that be followinging:
> >
> > Article 1
> > 1. in the present agreement of side decide questions of the passage of the
> > state border between the Estonian republic and the Russian Federation in
> > the land section (further - state border) they confirm that with the coming
> > into force of present agreement they consider the questions indicated as
> > those regulated.
> > 2. passage of the line of the differentiation of the sea spaces of side is
> > defined by various agreement.
> >
> > Article 2
> > the state border, defined by present agreement, is line and passing along
> > this line vertical surface, that demarcate land, reservoirs, airspace and
> > depths of Estonian republic and Russian Federation.
> >
> > Article 3
> > 1. of side on the basis of the understandings, achieved in the course of
> > Estonian Russian negotiations on boundary questions, determined the passage
> > of state border, which is given in the description (appendix 1) and it is
> > plotted on the map of scale 1:50 000 (appendix 2). Appendices 1 and 2 to
> > the present agreement are its integral parts.
> > 2. in the case of the differences between the sides with the interpretation
> > of the point of 1 present article decisive importance has a description of
> > the passage of state border according to application 1 to the present
> > agreement.
> >
> > Article 4
> > points of the joint of the state borders of Estonian republic, Russian
> > Federation and Latvian republic is determined by the separate agreement
> > between these three states.
> >
> > Article 5
> > 1. for the establishment in the locality of the passage of the state border
> > of side creates on parity principles the joint demarcation commission
> > (further - commission), and each side assigns the cochairman of commission
> > and his deputy.
> > 2. commission asserts the regulations of its activity.
> > 3. each of the sides beret to itself coating the expenditures of its part
> > of the commission, if the governments of the parties sometimes do not agree
> > about something different.
> >
> > Article 6
> > 1. commission achieves demarcation of state border as follows: it prepares
> > the drafts of documents about the demarcation of state border; determines
> > if necessary on the boundary rivers (lakes) the precise position of main
> > (navigable) fairway, middle of river or its main sleeve, and also the
> > belonging of islands in the boundary rivers and the lakes; boundary signs
> > are established.
> > 2. with performing of demarcation work commission considers on the basis of
> > the mutual agreement of the condition of the domestic-economic activity of
> > population, including of land tenure, the nature of locality, and also the
> > need of creating the favorable conditions for the protection of state border.
> >
> > Article 7
> > state border is considered finally demarcated after assertion the
> > government of each of the sides of the documents of demarcation - the
> > description of the passage of the line of state border, protocols of
> > boundary signs and demarcation map.
> >
> > Article 8
> > questions, which are concerned the activity of boundary representatives,
> > the rules of water-use, navigation, joint operation of those located on the
> > boundary it is bridge and water-engineering constructions, the conditions
> > of fishing, another economic activity in the boundary waters and of
> > different aspects of the regime of state border, they are regulated by
> > separate agreements.
> >
> > Article 9
> > questions, which appear with fulfilling of present agreement, sides decide
> > along the diplomatic channels.
> >
> > Article 10
> > present agreement is subject to ratification and comes into force after 30
> > days from the date of the exchange of ratification instruments. Are
> > perfected into Moscow "18" May of 2005 in two copies, each in Estonian and
> > the Russian language, moreover both texts be identically valid.
> >
> >
> > For The Estonian Republic
> > [signature]
> >
> > For The Russian Federation
> > [signature]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 12:18 AM 21/05/2005 +0200, you wrote:
> >
> > >I found the Russian text through the website of the Estonian embassy in
> > >Moscow (<http://www.estemb.ru>):
> > ><http://web-static.vm.ee/static/failid/372/Riigipiiri_leping_Venemaaga_rus.pdf>.
> > >
> > >
> > >In a quick, cursory scan I have found nothing about the pene-enclave. The
> > >document does not contain, however, the two appendices of the treaty: a
> > >description and a map respectively.
> > >
> > >-Pepijn
> > >
> > >>----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > >>Van: Brendan Whyte <bwhyte@U...>
> > >>Aan: INT-BOUNDARIES@J...
> > >>Datum: vrijdag 20 mei 2005 1:59:35
> > >>Onderwerp: Russia-Estonia border treaty
> > >>http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/05/8c4dff69-a0b7-49e9-a3f1-
> fecb60401165.html
> > >>Radio Free Europe reports (on 18 May) that Russia and Estonia have signed
> > >>just a border treaty, that supposedly has been ready since 1996.
> > >>It remains to be ratified by both countries.
> > >>Does anyone have access to the text of this treaty?
> > >>(preferably in an English version, but Russian or Estonian will do).
> > >>I am particularly interested to know the status of a Russian pene-enclave
> > >>on the western shore of Lake Pskov.
> > >>
> > >>Dr Brendan Whyte
> > >>Assistant Map Curator
> > >>ERC Library
> > >>University of Melbourne
> > >>Vic 3010
> > >>AUSTRALIA
> > >>bwhyte@u...
> > >
> > >Dr Brendan Whyte
> > >Assistant Map Curator
> > >ERC Library
> > >University of Melbourne
> > >Vic 3010
> > >AUSTRALIA
> > >bwhyte@u...