thanx
that was great
& here is the url again in case anyone missed it
http://tinyurl.com/5nbzq
& i think these commentators are myopic too because
international territorial law itself
even including such united nations resolutions as this
one
only establishes & insures that all the already
illegal territorial spoils of war will continue to
belong to whichever victors can maintain control over
them
indeed only if war is considered legal & normal does
international territorial law make any sense at all
on another hand & actually a slightly different topic
it seems to me that
even in the great majority of cases where the regime
of international law is fully honored & in effect
which is decidedly not the case here
such fully de jure borders are generally just a
consolidation of de facto realities anyway
until trumped & obliterated by the next de facto
result of the next military outbreak
only a legal system that does not reward war would be
fully worthy of the name
as of now
war is
actually
the legal system
just because might makes right
& what international law actually does do
even including united nations resolutions by a
majority of the most powerful armed gangs
is to stabilize the turfs of these & other gangs
with de jure trumping de facto only when it suits the
actually prevailing gangs
--- Martin Pratt <
m.a.pratt@...> wrote:
> The lines on the Soviet map at
>
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu:8085/israel/50k/08-36-011-3.jpg
> represent
> the limits of Israeli and Jordanian territorial
> control under the
> General Armistice Agreement (GAA) of April 1949;
> these lines were
> described as Armistice Demarcation Lines (ADLs). A
> couple of weeks after
> the GAA was signed, the military commanders of the
> Israeli and Jordanian
> armies proposed closing the gap between the two
> lines in and around
> Jerusalem and establishing a single ADL. The
> proposal was implemented to
> the northwest and southwest of Jerusalem, but the
> King of Jordan refused
> to authorise the establishment of a single line
> through Jerusalem
> itself.
>
> So the Soviet map shows the ADLs only as they
> existed between 3 and 25
> April 1949, except between northings 15 and 22
> (approx) where the
> original double GAA lines plus no-man's land
> remained in place until
> June 1967. Israel subsequently annexed East
> Jerusalem and the ADLs are
> virtually (but not completely) invisible on the
> ground today. However,
> while they may be relict boundaries de facto, they
> still of considerable
> significance de jure, most notably in the context of
> UN Security Council
> Resolution 242 - which many commentators believe
> makes Israel's
> occupation of any territory it did not hold before 4
> June 1967 illegal
> under international law.
>
> For an indication of where the ADLs were located
> following the April
> 1949 revision discussed above, see
> http://tinyurl.com/5nbzq.
>
> Regards,
>
> m a r t i n
>
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