Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] more about the local points
Date: Feb 17, 2001 @ 20:30
Author: Michael Donner ("Michael Donner" <m@...>)
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am really thinking now of taking a plane ride to photograph the bscuus or bahamas cuba usa tripoint from a safe enough distance so as not to provoke the cuban air force

& i now believe it can be done

 

but since i dont have my prescott with me

i can only dimly recall that the cuus line is the one that has been negotiated

& possibly the bscu line also

but not the bsus line

 

at least i think i remember being surprised that the bahamas were the odd man out in this picture

 

can anyone confirm this

or better yet can anyone give the geocoords for the easternmost point on the cuus line

  yes i am serious this time

since this point must be at least the temporary best guess for the tripoint position

especially if the eastern terminus of cuus was diplomatically calculated to be equidistant from the bahamas & cuba & the usa

as would seem the only sensible place to end that line

& would therefore produce a bilateral & putative if not yet the trilaterally agreed position for the tripoint

 

the approximate point of equidistance from all 3 countries appears to lie

50 miles south of 7 mile bridge of the usa

50 miles west of the double headed shot cays of the bahamas &

50 miles north of varadero cuba

or approx n lat 23 deg 56 min & w long 81 deg 13 min

a position positively reinforced by a usgs navigational chart i also saw today depicting a suspiciously tripunctive lurch in the eez boundary just there

 

maybe if i can just fly high enough on a clear enough day to photograph all 3 countries in a single frame

that would do the job

& no need to mess with geocoords nor danger

 

 

 

the other point i started to mention below

i mean the one west of the dry tortugas

is not actually a tripoint

tho it is a point where 3 different legal regimes meet

the 3 mile & 3 league state limits & the federal waters

 

the 3 mile & 3 league limits collide in 2 other places

both of which occur at or actually produce distinct tripoints

namely alflus & latxus

but only here do the regimes just feather together indistinctly

 

you can see the clearest of the 3 usgs depictions of the supreme court ruling that affirmed all 3 points at

http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=16&n=3343656&e=459236&s=200&size=m&symshow=n

 

the red angle point at center being actually the alflus tripoint

 

i cant help wondering tho why the usgs did not make the 3 league line curve westward around the 3 mile line there

since i would think alabama has no claim to equidistance with florida beyond its own 3 mile limit

 

that long northsouth line joining the 2 limits there smacks like a cop out by the usgs

but i dont know

maybe it was in the court decision that way

 

interestingly the usgs does not even attempt to show the corresponding transition around the latxus tripoint

  or else maybe topozone crops it out

i also dont know why

perhaps because the geographical situation is so hopelessly complex in that particular area

 

 

but when you look at the third & most bizarre of these transitions

i mean the one in the dry tortugas

tho also badly cropped by topozone at

http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=17&n=2728934&e=312222&s=200&size=l

you can see at the left margin the beginning of what looks like another cop out by the usgs

linking the 2 regimes in this case with an eastwest connector line

while there again appears to be no logical reason for doing so

 

i also saw a usgs navigational chart this morning apparently reiterating this oddly casual alignment

 

again i would think the 3 league line coming down from the north should just continue naturally & wrap around the 3 mile line coming across from the east

like a larger cloud descending on & absorbing a smaller one

 

but no

here again a cardinally oriented rupture in reality

yet perpendicular to the previous one

 

in any case all very strange

m

 

 

>From: "Michael Donner"

>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] more about the local points
>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:34:11
>


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