Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: CEBT - next Europ. border expedition in August!
Date: Apr 19, 2004 @ 23:02
Author: Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
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> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Doug Murray__________________________________
> <doug@d...> wrote:
> >
> > My appearance on CBC Radio was no more than me
> recalling
> the incident
> > when we ventured from Poland into Belarus without
> permission.
>
> well it may only have been one small step for us
> beepers
>
> but it was still a giant step for everyones land
>
> let me explain below
>
> > The incident in question:
> >
> > We arrived at the BYPL boundary and began
> exploring. I can't
> recall
> > the nearest town, and I am not able to check the
> map.
> >
> > However the 2 lane road was blocked... and on the
> Polish side
> was a
> > sandstrip that crossed the entire roadway. It was
> probably 2
> metres
> > across.
> >
> > Further up, there was the a change in pavement --
> the border --
> and a
> > white line across the road that marked the
> boundary. BY and
> PL markers
> > faced each other.
> >
> > The road continued as far as the eye could see
> into BY.
> Somewhere in
> > the distance there was a BY checkpoint, but we
> could not see
> it.
> >
> > On the PL side, there were some buildings,
> including one that
> looked
> > like an old office for border officials.
> >
> > The GBBE group wandered around, and we accidently
> trod in
> the sand
> > strip. Shortly thereafter, a Polish border guard
> came racing up
> the
> > road. Apparently someone (a local farmer?) called
> to report
> us.
> >
> > He was awfully unhappy -- and it fell to Ann to
> use her Polish
> skills
> > to explain what we were up to. They spent several
> long
> minutes in the
> > guard's jeep -- discussing the matter.
> >
> > At one point, we were asked through Ann, if we had
> entered
> Belarus
> > and/or trod in the sand. Initially we said no,
> but when pressed
> -- and
> > threatened with matching our shoes to the
> footprints in the
> sandstrip
> > -- we admitted that we may have accidentally
> wandered across
> the border.
> >
> > When he asked how many of us accidentally entered
> BY -- we
> all nodded
> > that we had.
>
> hahahahaha
> wasnt this a scene from snow white & the 7 dwarves
> hahahahaha
>
> > This began more discussions between the guard and
> Ann. He
> also spoke
> > many time to his superiors on the radio.
> >
> > Eventually, he realized we meant no harm. We all
> apologized
> profusely
> > to both the guard, the people of Poland, the
> people of Belarus,
> and
> > most importantly, to Ann.
> >
> > The incident ended with laugher and goodwill...
> and a
> reminder that
> > while exploring borders is fun, they are also
> places of territorial
> > integrity -- and must not be treated lightly.
> >
> > This lesson stayed with us for at least 30
> minutes.
>
> no wonder
> since the laughter & goodwill were of course the
> whole point
> & your very reasons for going there to bypl as well
> as to the radio
>
> & the integrity of borders is of course a vain
> illusion
> which should indeed be forgotten in 30 minutes or
> less
> as you correctly did
>
> &
> t h a t
> is what the world heard from your lips last night
>
> the world heard
> this really is all just everyones land
> & we can not only all get along but actually live
> happily ever after
>
>
> & thanx also to this from you tonite
> i finally do get the clang of mikes ringer in
> message 13893
> hahahahahaha
> which i heartily recommend to anyone who hasnt made
> the
> connection yet
> hahahaha
> too much
>
> & finally i would like to second aletheias
> suggestion to anyone
> who still has any email difficulties whatsoever
>
> just replace your email regime by bookmarking or
> homepaging
> the bp home page & resorting to gmane for
> attachments
> whenever necessary
> since everything is now working great
> even with a huge load of goodies such as these
>
> bravissimos all
>
> i am humbly proud to be a part of this enormous &
> truly
> preposterous organization
>
> er i mean this sandcastle pipe dream
>
> >
> > Pictures follow...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > BELOW: Looking into Belarus... Polish barricade.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BELOW: Polish sandstrip with someone's
> footprints.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BELOW: Line across road -- like Hagen Koch's
> DDR-BDR line
> near Cafe
> > Adler in Berlin!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BELOW: Looking at the Polish marker (no idea how
> the
> photographer got
> > this shot. Mirrors, I think!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BELOW: Another shot of the road & posts.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Below: Inside one of the abandoned (?) buildings
> nearby.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, April 5, 2004, at 04:22 PM,
> acroorca2002 wrote:
> >
> > > ahh pete
> > > i just got to a computer where i could finally
> read this doc
> > >
> > > beauuuuutiful
> > >
> > > & your 40404 must be the missing 4th horseshoe
> ringer too
> > >
> > > also
> > > i missed dougs radio interview about the polish
> border guard
> at
> > > bypl
> > > or at least thats what i think mike was talking
> about in his 4th
> > > shoe drop
> > >
> > > so can you or anyone fill this blank in for
> those few of us who
> > > were neither on the geebe nor on the radio last
> night
> > >
> > > or am i missing another point as well
> > >
> > > & finally
> > > dont count me in yet for the cebt but dont count
> me out yet
> either
> > >
> > > & ps
> > > good thinking to make & keep the cebt expedition
> a veritable
> > > t r i p
> > > as well as an expedition
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> Hering
> > > <hering@m...> wrote:
> > > > To all BP members:
> > > >
> > > > this is a notification that a new file has
> been added to the
> > > > file section of BP:
> > > >
> > > > The "CEBT" (Central European Border Trip) will
> take place
> in
> > > > week 33, from SUND August 8 to SUND August 15
> = 8
> days/7
> > > nights.
> > > >
> > > > Start/finish Copenhagen/DK.
> > > >
> > > > Should you be interested in participating, pls
> let me know
> > > asap!!
> > > > Deadline April 15. - On this day the final
> confirmation about
> > > > car/van rental has to be made.
> > > >
> > > > * GBBE, GEEBE and GCEBE participants have
> first priority.
> > > >
> > > > have some nice Easter holidays, all of you!!
> > > >
> > > > Peter Hering
> > > >
> > > > de bedste hilsener
> > > > best regards
> > > > mit freundlichen Gr�ssen
> > >
> > >
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