Hello Brendan,
thanks for your comments, most interesting...
conc. lack of cash... well I know it's a long
way, not only to Tipperary,. but from Aussie
as well - so the only comfort I can give you
is the fact that we're all in the same boat,
boundary freaks usually don't get rich...
But airline fares to/from Europe aren't too
expensive any more --- in CPH you can get
a return ticket to SYD/MEL for about DKR
7000 = appr. USD 850,- ..
----- Original Message -----
From: Brendan Whyte <brwhyte@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Important notice conc. GCEBE !
> Some comments from someone who wants to come, but probably won't have the $
> to do so...
>
> - How long is the drove fomr Copenhagen to Czech... seems a LONG way.
> Can you give an estimate of distances (and or driving times) each day, and a
> total distance? I did a 6000km trip over Christmas (12 days), so i wouldl
> ike to compare time-in-the-car with that .
> I just sent a revised itinerary to the group, containing driven k's per day...!
Day 2 (CPH-Berlin-Tp1) is quite long - 9 hrs on the road, yes!
Total distance driven: CPH - GCEBE - CPH: about 4.000/4.500 km !
> Berlin is worht a little time: Checkpoint Charlie, Steinstucken, Russian War
> memorial and assorted ex-enclaves.
> Sure, a very short sightseeing trip thru B. could be part of the day, I'm open
for suggestions....
>
> Ditto Busingen/Verenahof would be worhtwhile visiting, along with Konstanz
> possibly.
> Yeah, Büsingen: I'm trying to put an overnight stop in there...
> While the Monschau area is pretty (it's a lovely town, and the youth hostel
> is the old castle overlooking the town set in a steep valley), the enclaves
> are invisible in the cultutral landscape.
> The most interesting thing is the Belgian part of roetgen town, where the
> border runs down the middle of the street and the Belgian side is lined with
> shops selling chocolate, coffee, tobacco and alcohol which are taxed less
> there.
> yeah, definetely worth a visit: Roetgen!!!
> The most enclave-interesting way to visit the area would be to ride the Venn
> Bahn along the rail line enclavement itself. With a car one person could
> follow the train to meet it and pick the others up, making transport to/from
> the start and end points easy.
> well, imo: no time for that...!
>
> Baarle is by far more interesting, with more to see.
> no doubt about that
> the GeBeNe point is an hour's wlak fomr aachen, not difficult at all. 4-5km.
> No need to drive. From the Aachen rail station, I wlaked, but it is possible
> to take a bus halfway and walk the final 2-3km fomr there.
> yeah, but driving (accessible by car from both Ne+Be!) saves time...!
> I agree that reversing the trip seems good, but given that the most
> interesting places (save juingholz) are in the west, visiting them first
> means you have plenty of time there and can miss out a laterp oint in the
> east if necessary, the other wya leaving Baarle last means if you are
> running late, people are tired, etc, you can't so easily drop a point at
> that point in time. D'you see?
>no, not really - it's the "build-up" that counts, isn't it - imo the dessert has to be
eaten at the end...! If anybody wants to spend X-time here, why not...!?
Tired - not boundary freaks...! You could "reverse" this argument: by seeing
the best things first, and do the long distance driving afterwards, there could
emerge some kind of : done it, seen it, been there...
> but then as I am unlikely to be able to get there, those most likely to do
> so should decide.
> my two cents' worth.
> No Brendan, it would be great, if you could make it...! Give it a try...!!!!
> Brendan
>Kind regards Peter
PS: Do you, by any chance, know if there exist any pictures of the Oz-tripoints...?!?
P.
>
> >1- In my opinion it would be an advantage to "reverse"
> >
> >it; that means Copenhagen will be our starting point.
> >
> >Jesper and I could give you some sightseeing + there
> >
> >would be a "welcome" - get-together party at my place.
> >
> >We could also arrange cheap accomodation for those
> >
> >of you arriving from overseas... secondly it would allow
> >
> >everyone of you to make own arrangements at the end
> >
> >of the trip in the Low Countries - that's the place where
> >
> >most of the tripoints are and most of the weird border
> >
> >lines like Baarle ... (officially the trip ends in Copenhagen).
> >
> > 2 - A revised itinerary is attached and you'll find some new
> >
> > tripoints to be visited - and some to be missed. I've also
> >
> > taken newly discussed topics into account, like a visit to
> >
> > Jungholz and a drive through the BeGe enclave area.
> >
> > 3 - I'd ask you kindly - as the very first step - to make up your
> >
> > mind about this trip... you make no commitments at all
> >
> > by telling me about your point of view - but at this early
> >
> > stage I'd like to get an overall impression of people's interest
> >
> > in the trip. Please send me a personal e-mail before Jan. 31
> >
> > and let me know if you're at all interested in our GCEBE..
> >
> > It will be carried out under any cirumstances... if we're fewer
> >
> > than 5 people, in my own car...!
> >
>
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