Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: CY boundary crosses
Date: Dec 18, 2003 @ 18:50
Author: Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
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----- Original Message -----
From: <orc@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:37 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: CY boundary crosses
> so it appears you are indicating in at least 1 case a later border
> has crossed & trumped an earlier one
>
> which in itself is not so strange
> especially in situations of conquest or colonization
>
> & in at least 1 case
> possibly the same case
> the historic boundary is now being invoked by 2 different parties for
> different political purposes
>
> which in itself is also not all that strange
>
> but when the past & the possible combine to practically equal or even
> overwhelm the present reality
> well i would agree such an intersection is or would be a bit unusual
>
> but then too
> dont you think it is probably just the old interethnic lines
> reasserting themselves once again
> over the frozen military landscape
> now that they can
> or even must
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@i...>
> wrote:
> > The Brits did made such promises, but the maps I have of Cyprus are
> well
> > before the UN Cyprus peace plan. And they all show this boundary
> line.
> >
> > Jesper
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <orc@o...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:08 PM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: CY boundary crosses
> >
> >
> > > didnt the brits agree to give some of the sbas back to a
> > > reconstituted european republic of cyprus
> > >
> > > or something perhaps like that may be the point
> > >
> > > but what i think you are observing & reporting here in any case
> are
> > > all really just boundary proposals
> > > & made for whatever reason without regard to the extant borders
> > >
> > > or is that not the case as you understand it
> > >
> > > & if so then the intersections produced by these boundaries are of
> > > course crossings in time or possibility rather than real border
> > > crosses in actual geographical space
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> <jesniel@i...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > All right
> > > >
> > > > it might be a different type of boundary cross.
> > > >
> > > > See http://www.nicolette.dk/diverse/cybx.gif.
> > > >
> > > > Red/white thick line is offcourse the boundaries of the British
> > > Sovereign
> > > > Base Area.
> > > >
> > > > Thin dotted line is the district boundary between Famagusta and
> > > Larnaca
> > > > Districts seen from the view point of Republic of Cyprus.
> > > >
> > > > According to http://www.emu.edu.tr/english/images/trncyprus.gif
> > > it's the
> > > > district boundary of Famagusta and Nicosia from the view point
> of
> > > the
> > > > Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
> > > >
> > > > However, I don't know what practical meaning a CY district
> boundary
> > > has in
> > > > UK territory.
> > > >
> > > > Jesper
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <orc@o...>
> > > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:46 PM
> > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: CY boundary crosses
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > not sure i get it yet
> > > > >
> > > > > are you saying these crossing boundaries merely resemble what
> we
> > > have
> > > > > been calling boundary crosses
> > > > > or are a new & different sort of boundary crosses in need of a
> > > > > distinct name
> > > > > or actually are exactly what we have been calling boundary
> crosses
> > > > >
> > > > > & could you perhaps zero in on one of them to clarify this
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> > > <jesniel@i...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > The CY districts boundaries cross into the Sovereign Base
> Areas
> > > and
> > > > > also into the UN and TRNC areas, which particulary at the SBAs
> > > make
> > > > > several boundary crosses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Maps.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jesper
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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