oops
found the truck & then forgot the book
but that can wait a bit longer too
about this southernmost point of philadelphia tho
i think it may have been as troublesome for m&d as it is for us
for the roughly contemporaneous map i saw & mentioned did indeed show
the city plan end abruptly all along the south side of what was then
cedar & is now south street
but only as far east as second street
from second street to the delaware river
including the area where the same map shows the only house wall i
believe they could have used as their point of origin
the limits of the city
or whatever it is they are
are depicted sprawling a good mile or so farther down the river
so it remains a mystery why m&d decided on this house
or rather why they disregarded &or discounted the proruption
perhaps they knew something the mapmaker didnt
or perhaps the penn calvert deal specifically excluded the proruption
but somehow there must be more to the story than we yet know
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> Okay, thanks! I had no idea that they had legally defined city
limits then.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "acroorca2002" <orc@o...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:52 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: mason dixon point of beginning
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>
>
> > kennett square pa
> >
> > because the city limits ended on the south side of south street
> > & didnt include the buildings on that side
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > If Messrs. Mason and Dixon were seeking the southernmost point
of
> > the city, why
> > > would they use the north wall of the southernmost house and not
the
> > south wall
> > > of the same?
> > >
> > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "acroorca2002" <orc@o...>
> > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:25 AM
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] mason dixon point of beginning
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> > >
> > >
> > > > reached the famous corner of south & second streets in
> > philadelphia
> > > > last night
> > > > & scoured all the building facades along the south side of
south
> > > > street in both directions
> > > > all the way to third street & then clear to front street too
> > > > looking for some sort of commemorative announcement or
historic
> > marker
> > > > of the mason dixon point of beginning
> > > > at what is supposed to have been the southernmost point of
> > > > philadelphia in 1763
> > > >
> > > > & tho philadelphia is full of historical signs
> > > > since after all most of history did originally happen here
> > > > i could find no trace of the history i was looking for
> > > >
> > > > exhausted i went to sleep right on the corner there hoping
for a
> > dream
> > > >
> > > > had a great one too
> > > > & continued the try this morning at the free library
> > > > where i am posting this interim report before returning to
the
> > scene
> > > > for a closer look
> > > >
> > > > here at the library i have found the official 1762 map of
> > > > philadelphia which mason & dixon were most likely working from
> > > >
> > > > it does indeed show cedar aka south street to be the southern
> > limit
> > > > but only as far east as second avenue
> > > > where a narrow proruption of the plotted street plan is shown
> > > > extending much farther south along the delaware river
> > > >
> > > > hmmm
> > > > i cant figure out why mason & dixon didnt use the
southernmost
> > point
> > > > of this proruption
> > > > tho there is probably a perfectly good reason
> > > >
> > > > in any case
> > > > because the proruption ends precisely at second street
> > > > we can be pretty sure their point of beginning
> > > > reportedly near second street
> > > > is just east of second street rather than just west of it
> > > > since that would be outside the city by either definition
> > > >
> > > > moreover the 1762 map shows only one house anywhere near the
> > corner
> > > > & it stands between 100 & 175 feet east of second street
> > > >
> > > > the next house on this street btw is at the corner of front &
> > south
> > > > & couldnt have been the right house
> > > > or history would have said front & south rather than second &
> > south
> > > >
> > > > so this single solitary house or its successor stands a very
good
> > > > chance of being the house i am looking for
> > > >
> > > > & since philadelphia tilts a bit southeast
> > > > the northeast corner of the house
> > > > is farther south than the its northwest corner
> > > >
> > > > so now i will go back & try to find & put my finger on
precisely
> > this
> > > > northeast corner of precisely this building on the south side
of
> > > > south street precisely 175 feet east of second street
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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