Subject: an apparent apparition  was RE: [BoundaryPoint] Historic geographic anomalies<br/>
Date: Jan 02, 2001 @ 02:14<br/>
Author: michael donner (michael donner &lt;m@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-250966037">dear arif<br/>
<br/>
glad you pursed this<br/>
as it is interesting<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt;<br/>
&gt;Mike - I thought Georgia interrupted South Carolina&#39;s<br/>
&gt;march to Pacific, so thought it was an exclave.  But,<br/>
&gt;as I have mentioned, I did not get to look at the book<br/>
&gt;for a long time.  However, I am pretty sure Eastern<br/>
&gt;New York did block Massachusetts&#39; claim and thus there<br/>
&gt;should be a detached territory there.  Can you check<br/>
&gt;it out?<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>the boundary between ma & ny was controversial from early times<br/>
& was not agreed upon in any sense til 1773<br/>
  presumably in london  particulars unknown<br/>
nor acknowledged by congress til 1785<br/>
nor marked til 1787<br/>
 all substantially as at present<br/>
<br/>
the demarcation had to be performed by a federal commission tho<br/>
evidently owing to the vehemence of the disagreement even then<br/>
<br/>
since all sovereign claims to western lands by ma beyond the mississippi<br/>
were extinguished in 1783<br/>
  & all those west of ny in 1785<br/>
    & all those within ny in 1786<br/>
it sure looks as tho ma was forced to retract her western limits<br/>
progressively eastward from the pacific to the taconics<br/>
& as tho her boundary with ny could not be drawn on the ground til she<br/>
actually consented once & for all to the entire truncation<br/>
as a matter of complicated political expediency & compromise<br/>
<br/>
it is possible tho that someone might have believed & might still believe<br/>
based on the above data that ma really did have a disconnected western<br/>
territory at some time between 1773 & 1787<br/>
<br/>
so maybe we should call this type a vanishing & reappearing ghost exclave<br/>
if any<br/>
<br/>
plainly tho  it is not as clear or definite as those of ct<br/>
even if i am prejudiced<br/>
<br/>
m</div>